CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
Aug 3, 2026 · 39 min · 9 segments
In this fifth episode of our series exploring CCEF's seven distinctives, Gunner Gundersen is joined by Jonathan Holmes, Darby Strickland, and Lauren Whitman to discuss our fifth distinctive: "Help and…
Gunner GundersenHost
Lauren WhitmanGuestJonathan HolmesGuest
Darby StricklandGuest
When you listen to people's stories, you can be helpful in so many ways because God works in so many ways.

Others will be moved by a personal story that helps them see God and the relationship to him in a new way.

Or the death of a friend, painfully reminding them of human need for redemption of body and soul.

God uses people, circumstances, his word, our own choices, and the direct power of his spirit.

We are constantly reliant on God, the wisdom and experience of others, and the input of those we help.

We aim to know God through his word, in which we understand his words in their context and as a larger story of redemption and love.

We will see good, hard and sinful things in ourselves and in the people we help.

I love that it honors the complexity of people and of our hearts and of even just our situations, which, and then it requires of us a certain level of humility, right? If people aren't that simple to figure out, if the process of sanctification isn't a formula, it really requires us to be humbly learners of the people we're caring for of scripture.

When you listen to people's stories, you can be helpful in so many ways because God works in so many ways.

Others will be moved by a personal story that helps them see God and the relationship to him in a new way.

Or the death of a friend, painfully reminding them of human need for redemption of body and soul.

God uses people, circumstances, his word, our own choices, and the direct power of his spirit.

We are constantly reliant on God, the wisdom and experience of others, and the input of those we help.

We aim to know God through his word, in which we understand his words in their context and as a larger story of redemption and love.

We will see good, hard and sinful things in ourselves and in the people we help.

I love that it honors the complexity of people and of our hearts and of even just our situations, which, and then it requires of us a certain level of humility, right? If people aren't that simple to figure out, if the process of sanctification isn't a formula, it really requires us to be humbly learners of the people we're caring for of scripture.
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