CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet
Oct 5, 2026 · 41 min · 12 segments
Comparison and envy are such ordinary parts of human experience that we often barely notice them. But what do they reveal about our hearts, and how do they affect our relationships with God and…
Ed WelchGuest
Aaron SironiGuestGunner GundersenHost
Gunnar, one of the benefits of being invited to do a podcast is you have to think about it a little bit more than you normally would.

And that has been invaluable because my first thought is that comparisons are just a human instinct.

They're a bothersome instinct of course but they are just so profoundly human in every person in every culture at all times so so with that in mind the idea of pulling this out and identifying it is really important so yeah i'll start um okay it's on the greed end of the spectrum okay we know that it's i want i want something So I move on to that end of the spectrum, and I think of, okay, I go into a music store, and I want most everything that's in there.
Okay, but that doesn't quite get to

The other person has something that is admirable, that receives some recognition from other people.

And once I've been situated there, all of a sudden I can see it all over the place.

You know, what I would add to that is it's not only recognition or attention, glory, we would say, you know, in a spiritual category.

It's also whatever I value, whatever is important to me in my heart, what I treasure.

That's where my heart, that's where my envy is stirred up is, you know, I want that it's important to me in this person has it and it's, I like where you start with greed.

Gunnar, one of the benefits of being invited to do a podcast is you have to think about it a little bit more than you normally would.

And that has been invaluable because my first thought is that comparisons are just a human instinct.

They're a bothersome instinct of course but they are just so profoundly human in every person in every culture at all times so so with that in mind the idea of pulling this out and identifying it is really important so yeah i'll start um okay it's on the greed end of the spectrum okay we know that it's i want i want something So I move on to that end of the spectrum, and I think of, okay, I go into a music store, and I want most everything that's in there.
Okay, but that doesn't quite get to

The other person has something that is admirable, that receives some recognition from other people.

And once I've been situated there, all of a sudden I can see it all over the place.

You know, what I would add to that is it's not only recognition or attention, glory, we would say, you know, in a spiritual category.

It's also whatever I value, whatever is important to me in my heart, what I treasure.

That's where my heart, that's where my envy is stirred up is, you know, I want that it's important to me in this person has it and it's, I like where you start with greed.
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