Aug 25, 2026 · 1 hr 5 min · 11 segments
I’m thrilled to share some powerful insights from my latest **Capitalist Culture®** podcast episode with Bob Bernotas, a serial franchise entrepreneur, former franchise CEO, and advisor who has spent…
Bob BernotasGuest
Kip KnippelHost
And you've been, I mean, you've been doing this long enough and watch countless concepts come and go as, you know, some of you've mentioned what separates a, you know, a durable franchise from, from a fad.

I mean, you can look at a brand like Subway and the ebbs and flows of how that brand grew and how at times it was doing, the franchisees were doing, and other times how... how less they were doing uh if you remember the whole jared campaign right and uh things took off with that and they were doing really well their unit economics looked pretty good for for food but then that kind of came crashing down and then they were unit economics cut in half then they had a five dollar foot long and it ebbed up again and they did really well And then that kind of fell off.

So food scares me in that it's a smaller profit margin, usually single digit profit margins, minimum turnover, I'm sorry, high turnover, minimum wage employees.

Sometimes the businesses that I think offer the best opportunity are ones that are, boring businesses.

So depending upon what my candidates are looking for when I work with them, I'm always trying to ascertain, look, are you looking for something because you're passionate about it and that's what you want to do? Sometimes it's not, it's not the easiest thing to marriage that, to marry that passion with a successful business.

Because I always try to measure, put people on the scale when I start working with them.

People that like, hey, I want to be in a pet-related business because I love my dog.

Versus the other side of the spectrum, some people are, hey, just show me the money.

But I can tell you from a lot of experience running a lot of businesses and owning many franchises, the passion comes from operating a successful business.

Because if you don't have financial success, if you get into some pet-related business and you fail at it, you're going to learn to hate your passion.

And you've been, I mean, you've been doing this long enough and watch countless concepts come and go as, you know, some of you've mentioned what separates a, you know, a durable franchise from, from a fad.

I mean, you can look at a brand like Subway and the ebbs and flows of how that brand grew and how at times it was doing, the franchisees were doing, and other times how... how less they were doing uh if you remember the whole jared campaign right and uh things took off with that and they were doing really well their unit economics looked pretty good for for food but then that kind of came crashing down and then they were unit economics cut in half then they had a five dollar foot long and it ebbed up again and they did really well And then that kind of fell off.

So food scares me in that it's a smaller profit margin, usually single digit profit margins, minimum turnover, I'm sorry, high turnover, minimum wage employees.

Sometimes the businesses that I think offer the best opportunity are ones that are, boring businesses.

So depending upon what my candidates are looking for when I work with them, I'm always trying to ascertain, look, are you looking for something because you're passionate about it and that's what you want to do? Sometimes it's not, it's not the easiest thing to marriage that, to marry that passion with a successful business.

Because I always try to measure, put people on the scale when I start working with them.

People that like, hey, I want to be in a pet-related business because I love my dog.

Versus the other side of the spectrum, some people are, hey, just show me the money.

But I can tell you from a lot of experience running a lot of businesses and owning many franchises, the passion comes from operating a successful business.

Because if you don't have financial success, if you get into some pet-related business and you fail at it, you're going to learn to hate your passion.
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