Why We Started First Proof
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Mar 11, 2026 · 26 min · 16 segments
In this episode, Lauren Williams, professor of mathematics at Harvard University and a 2025 MacArthur Fellow, speaks about the surprising and often messy reality of mathematical research. The…
Okay, Lauren, so back in October, you found out that you won a MacArthur Genius Grant.
This is this incredible honor, and I'm curious, not the math yet, but just emotionally, what did it feel like to find this out? And especially, you were the only mathematician among the 22 winners, so what, what did that feel like to represent math in this way?
I want to mention that the backstory is that back in May of 2025, essentially all the federal math and science grants at Harvard were canceled.
And so to all of a sudden have the funding yanked out from underneath us was, um, was, um, was very, very stressful.
And then in the months that followed, I would say that I and most of my colleagues were quite demoralized.
It felt like higher education and scientific research were at this period of existential crisis.
But then in, in the fall, I got this call from the MacArthur Foundation saying that I had, I had been awarded this, this grant, and it was just this shock, this amazing gift, which first of all told me that somebody cared about my research after all, and second, that I would have the funding to be able to keep doing the work that I was doing.
So it was an, an incredible gift, and it couldn't have come at a better time.
And did you know you were in the running, or was this completely out of the blue?
Um, the way things work is that they're done by anonymous nomination, so I have no idea, you know.
Okay, Lauren, so back in October, you found out that you won a MacArthur Genius Grant.
This is this incredible honor, and I'm curious, not the math yet, but just emotionally, what did it feel like to find this out? And especially, you were the only mathematician among the 22 winners, so what, what did that feel like to represent math in this way?
I want to mention that the backstory is that back in May of 2025, essentially all the federal math and science grants at Harvard were canceled.
And so to all of a sudden have the funding yanked out from underneath us was, um, was, um, was very, very stressful.
And then in the months that followed, I would say that I and most of my colleagues were quite demoralized.
It felt like higher education and scientific research were at this period of existential crisis.
But then in, in the fall, I got this call from the MacArthur Foundation saying that I had, I had been awarded this, this grant, and it was just this shock, this amazing gift, which first of all told me that somebody cared about my research after all, and second, that I would have the funding to be able to keep doing the work that I was doing.
So it was an, an incredible gift, and it couldn't have come at a better time.
And did you know you were in the running, or was this completely out of the blue?
Um, the way things work is that they're done by anonymous nomination, so I have no idea, you know.
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