Jul 21, 2026 · 41 min · 10 segments
Bad decisions don't usually come from bad information. They come from overwhelm. In this episode, Lucy is joined by Melissa Lewis of ML Property Venture, who shares her own burnout story from the…
Lucy ShrimptonHostMelissa LewisGuest
And so I think until you're out of survival mode, as in you can cover the necessary costs that you're signed up for and you can, you know, you can cover your overheads and whatever.

But when you're in survival mode, It is about the money, and it does buy a certain level of peace and stress-free living once you get to a certain level.

After that, that's where positive psychology shows that beyond that, it doesn't actually make a difference ultimately, which is why you have miserable billionaires, but...

The point is in those early stages, most people, especially if you go out on your own, the buck stops with you.

And I think so many people will resonate with this because it's a roller coaster.

And then that's self-perpetuating because... your mind and body isn't taking the best care of itself and you don't feel good so you're stressed so you're more exhausted and so it goes on and on and on like
Can I just add to that? So I thought that I could get further along from a place of anger.
And this is something that I even have to remind myself even now if I'm angry.
So at the time I was thinking, OK, I know I need to make have these amount of inventories or sell this amount of properties per month to make the minimum.
So I don't know if anyone else is listening and is thinking, okay, I know I need to make this amount of, you know, have these amount of appointments or whatever it is per month.
But what I learned and that would make me angry because then I'm thinking, oh, my goodness, like I just need to get to this.
And I would feel angry and frustrated that I was in this point, angry and frustrated that I'm not moving forward.

And so I think until you're out of survival mode, as in you can cover the necessary costs that you're signed up for and you can, you know, you can cover your overheads and whatever.

But when you're in survival mode, It is about the money, and it does buy a certain level of peace and stress-free living once you get to a certain level.

After that, that's where positive psychology shows that beyond that, it doesn't actually make a difference ultimately, which is why you have miserable billionaires, but...

The point is in those early stages, most people, especially if you go out on your own, the buck stops with you.

And I think so many people will resonate with this because it's a roller coaster.

And then that's self-perpetuating because... your mind and body isn't taking the best care of itself and you don't feel good so you're stressed so you're more exhausted and so it goes on and on and on like
Can I just add to that? So I thought that I could get further along from a place of anger.
And this is something that I even have to remind myself even now if I'm angry.
So at the time I was thinking, OK, I know I need to make have these amount of inventories or sell this amount of properties per month to make the minimum.
So I don't know if anyone else is listening and is thinking, okay, I know I need to make this amount of, you know, have these amount of appointments or whatever it is per month.
But what I learned and that would make me angry because then I'm thinking, oh, my goodness, like I just need to get to this.
And I would feel angry and frustrated that I was in this point, angry and frustrated that I'm not moving forward.
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