Jun 17, 2026 · 27 min · 12 segments
In this episode of *Booked Out with Bre*, I am joined by one of my favorite humans and a true branding visionary, Cathryn FisFis! Our journey goes back over a decade to our network marketing days, and…
Cathryn FisFisGuest
Brie KaneHost
I mean, I think I like to think of branding like water too, you know, and ourselves like water, where if you have water that's just sitting there stagnant and stale and it's going to start to get gross and polluted.

And, you know, you say to your kids, don't ever drink standing still water, find a stream, find something that's running.

If you're not evolving as an entrepreneur and as a creator and as a human, really, then what are you doing? You know, you're just going to sit there night after night, eating your, whatever it is, watching the same show, complaining that you don't have a great life.

You know, I am, I'm very much of the school of, you know, Teach, what is it? Teach a man to fish as opposed to just giving them a fish.

I have no problem helping you out and doing something for you, but you need to take it on yourself as well.

So really, you know, expanding from doing one-on-one branding packages and creating graphics and websites, which I do very much enjoy still, but realizing that that is the surface level, you know, that is the aesthetics.

You know, you send your, your Instagrams or, um, you know, Instagram feeds or websites to a girlfriend and say, Hey, oh my gosh, look at the photos are so pretty or check out this website.

I really like what she did, but did they click and buy something or did they send that person a DM and compliment them on it or ask a question about their offer or container.

When you dive into underneath, you take out the decoration and somebody can have that same website and that same Instagram feed that one doesn't have anything underneath.

And then the other one is built with their authority, built with their positioning, their identity, you know, their evolution over the years.

You know, that's where you get the, hey, yes, I'm booking a sales call, but I know I'm going to say yes before you even answer the phone.

You know, that's where it's, you know, creating brands into something that, can speak for them so to speak you know before you're responding to a dm on a story you already know that by the time that many chat response gets there you're clicking that link you're saying yes you're saying hey what can i upgrade to i need i need space with this girl she's awesome um and really just you know having a spot in that well-rounded circle in that package um has been a lot of fun and a lot of just just mind-blowing you know seeing i love seeing everybody expand the same way in that level and what their take on it has been.

I mean, I think I like to think of branding like water too, you know, and ourselves like water, where if you have water that's just sitting there stagnant and stale and it's going to start to get gross and polluted.

And, you know, you say to your kids, don't ever drink standing still water, find a stream, find something that's running.

If you're not evolving as an entrepreneur and as a creator and as a human, really, then what are you doing? You know, you're just going to sit there night after night, eating your, whatever it is, watching the same show, complaining that you don't have a great life.

You know, I am, I'm very much of the school of, you know, Teach, what is it? Teach a man to fish as opposed to just giving them a fish.

I have no problem helping you out and doing something for you, but you need to take it on yourself as well.

So really, you know, expanding from doing one-on-one branding packages and creating graphics and websites, which I do very much enjoy still, but realizing that that is the surface level, you know, that is the aesthetics.

You know, you send your, your Instagrams or, um, you know, Instagram feeds or websites to a girlfriend and say, Hey, oh my gosh, look at the photos are so pretty or check out this website.

I really like what she did, but did they click and buy something or did they send that person a DM and compliment them on it or ask a question about their offer or container.

When you dive into underneath, you take out the decoration and somebody can have that same website and that same Instagram feed that one doesn't have anything underneath.

And then the other one is built with their authority, built with their positioning, their identity, you know, their evolution over the years.

You know, that's where you get the, hey, yes, I'm booking a sales call, but I know I'm going to say yes before you even answer the phone.

You know, that's where it's, you know, creating brands into something that, can speak for them so to speak you know before you're responding to a dm on a story you already know that by the time that many chat response gets there you're clicking that link you're saying yes you're saying hey what can i upgrade to i need i need space with this girl she's awesome um and really just you know having a spot in that well-rounded circle in that package um has been a lot of fun and a lot of just just mind-blowing you know seeing i love seeing everybody expand the same way in that level and what their take on it has been.
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