Jun 21, 2026 · 45 min · 12 segments
## What Makes Someone a Mother? A Conversation with Susi Fox about *The Other Child* In this episode of *Between the Lines*, we're joined by bestselling author **Susi Fox** to discuss her novel *The…
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Susi FoxGuestLeanneHostChelleHostProbably that's a good point to start with before we even talk about the book, but, um-
... with internal family systems, that, how would you describe that to people listening who don't work in this space so they... 'Cause I wonder if that would come up as we're talking a bit about the book, but how do you explain it to people?
So y- you know, I guess traditionally, um, we might say that we're just one thing, but, uh, IFS considers us as, um, that we are multiple.
Um, you know, that we, there might be a part of us that gets angry, and a part of us that gets scared, a part of us that feels, and a part of us...
People might say, "There's a part of me that wants to eat chocolate, and a part of me that doesn't."
Mm.
Mm
... you know, we all sort of have that sense that we might, um, contain multitudes.
And yeah, so for me, when I first heard about IFS, it just made a lot of sense, um, and explained, yeah, a lot for me.
Yeah.
And that sounds closely aligned to Gestalt psychotherapy, which is the modality I work with as well.
Um, although I'm yet to find the part of me that doesn't want to eat chocolate, so [laughs].
Not to make light of, uh [laughs] of- No ... anyway.
Yeah.
Probably that's a good point to start with before we even talk about the book, but, um-
... with internal family systems, that, how would you describe that to people listening who don't work in this space so they... 'Cause I wonder if that would come up as we're talking a bit about the book, but how do you explain it to people?
So y- you know, I guess traditionally, um, we might say that we're just one thing, but, uh, IFS considers us as, um, that we are multiple.
Um, you know, that we, there might be a part of us that gets angry, and a part of us that gets scared, a part of us that feels, and a part of us...
People might say, "There's a part of me that wants to eat chocolate, and a part of me that doesn't."
Mm.
Mm
... you know, we all sort of have that sense that we might, um, contain multitudes.
And yeah, so for me, when I first heard about IFS, it just made a lot of sense, um, and explained, yeah, a lot for me.
Yeah.
And that sounds closely aligned to Gestalt psychotherapy, which is the modality I work with as well.
Um, although I'm yet to find the part of me that doesn't want to eat chocolate, so [laughs].
Not to make light of, uh [laughs] of- No ... anyway.
Yeah.
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