Before You Buy or Sell a Business
Sep 22, 2026 · 47 min · 13 segments
This episode was recorded a few days before the SBA released its new rules taking effect October 1, including the requirement for a quality of earnings report on business acquisitions with a purchase…
John HannumGuest
Jared JohnsonHost
You know, when I first started doing the diligence work, we couldn't find somebody to work with us on an acquisition and a client that wanted to buy something and say, okay, let's just get a QAV because I was used to doing those back in my corporate days.

So I think for me, three, four years ago, people were just literally buying businesses, you know, taking out an SBA loan, putting up their life savings, doing that.

with very little checking, kicking the tires, so to speak, as we used to say in the tire industry, which was frightening.

You're literally putting everything on the line and you haven't really looked at it.

So a QV is an operational look at the business, the way that we do it and the way that I like to have it done.

It's not necessarily an audit or it's not, we'll get into that maybe a little bit more later, but It's not an audit procedure.

It's really an operational procedure that says, what's this business doing? How much money is it making or not making? And what does it really do? We're trying to clear out the noise of what it doesn't do, add backs and those types of things that the owners always want to put back in there.

And it gives you a real view into what the business should be performing at so you can make the right decisions.

The goal of a Q of E and I hear this a lot with the entrepreneurs that we deal with, I just need to get a QV to make the bank happy.

About 50% of the deals I would say that we do get killed by the Q of E, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, right? You want to find out beforehand before you sign that one, two, $5 million check that the business isn't doing what you think it's doing or has some type of problem.

What I'm seeing in quality of earnings providers is that there is a lot more of us.

The difficulty is that it's being done more by people that are just doing an accounting exercise rather than really looking at the business to figure out how much money it's making.

So I like our Q of E, you know, not to do a sales pitch, but I like our Q of E because it's done by CFOs.

And we look at what the business really is doing and lay out some operational risk rather than just saying, you know, this number is different than this number.

You know, when I first started doing the diligence work, we couldn't find somebody to work with us on an acquisition and a client that wanted to buy something and say, okay, let's just get a QAV because I was used to doing those back in my corporate days.

So I think for me, three, four years ago, people were just literally buying businesses, you know, taking out an SBA loan, putting up their life savings, doing that.

with very little checking, kicking the tires, so to speak, as we used to say in the tire industry, which was frightening.

You're literally putting everything on the line and you haven't really looked at it.

So a QV is an operational look at the business, the way that we do it and the way that I like to have it done.

It's not necessarily an audit or it's not, we'll get into that maybe a little bit more later, but It's not an audit procedure.

It's really an operational procedure that says, what's this business doing? How much money is it making or not making? And what does it really do? We're trying to clear out the noise of what it doesn't do, add backs and those types of things that the owners always want to put back in there.

And it gives you a real view into what the business should be performing at so you can make the right decisions.

The goal of a Q of E and I hear this a lot with the entrepreneurs that we deal with, I just need to get a QV to make the bank happy.

About 50% of the deals I would say that we do get killed by the Q of E, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, right? You want to find out beforehand before you sign that one, two, $5 million check that the business isn't doing what you think it's doing or has some type of problem.

What I'm seeing in quality of earnings providers is that there is a lot more of us.

The difficulty is that it's being done more by people that are just doing an accounting exercise rather than really looking at the business to figure out how much money it's making.

So I like our Q of E, you know, not to do a sales pitch, but I like our Q of E because it's done by CFOs.

And we look at what the business really is doing and lay out some operational risk rather than just saying, you know, this number is different than this number.
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