Aviation Week's Check 6 Podcast
Sep 18, 2026 · 26 min · 7 segments
Aviation Week's resident 747 experts Guy Norris and Jens Flottau discuss why Boeing's "jumbo jet" still matters and has outlasted predictions made decades ago. ***Sign up to receive Aviation Week…
Joe AnselmoHost
Guys, you wrote the book, so I have a question for you that I think some members of our audience would like to know.

There's a small upstairs in the front of the airplane and in a section that originally, I guess, served as a piano lounge and a bar on some of the early versions.
You know, when they did think that the 747 would be eventually relegated to cargo, they thought, well, we're going to have to have this nose door, so therefore the cargo is just going to come right in.
And it's interesting because even when you come back to the very last 747 that was built, the Dash 8 Freighter, As you mentioned, Joe was rolled out as late as 22.
It has the original short upper deck of the very first 747 design because you still had to have the cockpit up there out of the way.
And they didn't need the stretched upper deck, which was, of course, introduced with the 300 and then became the standard on the 400 and later, of course, was stretched even more for the Dash 8.
So that's part of the iconic imagery, really, of the 747 is that upper deck, right, Jens? Yeah, and one thing
the pilots really liked, since you asked earlier, is the fact that they're entering their cockpit, they close the door, and they don't have to leave it again.
So it's this... you know tiny little apartment up there in the front which is very cozy and uh and you know just a great place to be as a as even as a visitor uh but to me it felt like you know obviously fascinating but but for them they felt very very comfortable up there as well
did you stay awake for the whole flight i mean because i know the crew would probably change out right

Guys, you wrote the book, so I have a question for you that I think some members of our audience would like to know.

There's a small upstairs in the front of the airplane and in a section that originally, I guess, served as a piano lounge and a bar on some of the early versions.
You know, when they did think that the 747 would be eventually relegated to cargo, they thought, well, we're going to have to have this nose door, so therefore the cargo is just going to come right in.
And it's interesting because even when you come back to the very last 747 that was built, the Dash 8 Freighter, As you mentioned, Joe was rolled out as late as 22.
It has the original short upper deck of the very first 747 design because you still had to have the cockpit up there out of the way.
And they didn't need the stretched upper deck, which was, of course, introduced with the 300 and then became the standard on the 400 and later, of course, was stretched even more for the Dash 8.
So that's part of the iconic imagery, really, of the 747 is that upper deck, right, Jens? Yeah, and one thing
the pilots really liked, since you asked earlier, is the fact that they're entering their cockpit, they close the door, and they don't have to leave it again.
So it's this... you know tiny little apartment up there in the front which is very cozy and uh and you know just a great place to be as a as even as a visitor uh but to me it felt like you know obviously fascinating but but for them they felt very very comfortable up there as well
did you stay awake for the whole flight i mean because i know the crew would probably change out right
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