Boeing 777X

And I wasn't sure it was going to be delivered in time to meet the upcoming fuel efficiency requirements that are going into place through ICAO and, by extension, the FAA.

But Boeing now has a waiver through 2030 to produce, or continue to produce, the 777 freighter based on the 777-200LR that it currently produces as it moves forward with 777X production that will eventually be taken over by the 777-8X.

Now, is this only happening because the 777X is so delayed that they're just-

Yes.

Yeah.

We'll figure it out.

Yeah.

But let's go back to the 777X for a moment because as certification of that aircraft continues, and hopefully Boeing says they're gonna start delivering aircraft early next year.

I think Covid might have actually somewhat helped A380s.

I feel like I remember reading somewhere that there's more coming into service that they've been extended a little longer also because other development of like the 777X and some other newer planes have been delayed.

Yeah I mean they stopped producing them in 2021 and one of the big reasons for that was that Emirates had placed quite a lot of orders and they had like in a positive way Ebers had the like backlog of those orders to work through and in 2019 Emma it's just like killed a whole bunch of their orders and so at that point obviously decided that they didn't want or need at that point yeah as many and so I'm sure Covid put the nail in the coffin but I think Emma it's being they have over half of the half of the A380s that have ever been delivered have been delivered to Emirates so they're just such a key customer that if they've decided they don't want any more then that's kind of the end of the road sadly but they're like

loved they're loved by passengers yeah they are really nice

Let's go into a little more detail then about the changes because, you know, as you rightly said, it was a new wing.

That created actually quite a few problems, didn't it, for the program? And it was sort of like almost like a prototype of what's happened with the 777 that moved from the 300ER to the 777X program.

where they thought, okay, new wing, let's just add it to what we know with the fuselage, what could possibly go wrong? So it's obviously, it was a much more complicated and sort of, There were a few issues, let's put it that way.

And looking back, you wonder why Boeing even did that, given the iterations of the 747 weren't.

So that's going to be another significant fleet, sort of minor fleet that we'll see in the skies for many more years to come as well.

I mean, one of the

reasons why the 747 is still there is obviously the 777X being so late, right? And that's going to be the aircraft probably that is going to be replacing the passenger version over time at Lufthansa for sure.

But it'll take a number of years.

Right.

Uh, Ortberg and the CFO present a list of issues from additional testing, uh, that will spill into next year for the 777X to more muted cash outlook for the company.

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Uh, they, the Boeing Corporation is currently trying to field the, uh, the Boeing 777X or 777-9, and that aircraft is just-

Yes

... about ready to start flying.