Amplify: A Podcast Powered by Patient Voice Partners
Jul 3, 2026 · 33 min · 14 segments
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And looking a little bit more at some stats, the Canadian Dermatology Association says 17% of Canadians will get at some point of time in their life some form of eczema.

So this affects Canadians across the board and significantly nurses, as we're going to talk about today.

Can you talk a little bit about your viewpoint as to what's happening across Canada? And when we use the words like national burden, what does that mean? Let's start there.
So I think it's interesting to look at those stats about the kind of prevalence in the general population because it is quite a bit lower in the general population versus high risk groups.
Anyone who has kind of exposure to chemicals, to frequent hand washing, to irritants is placed at a higher risk.
And individuals in that kind of category, their kind of risk of chronic hand eczema is actually up to 40%, so quite a bit higher than the general population.
And I think when we look at that from a national lens, that's quite kind of an impact on our healthcare system and places quite a risk on our workers.
It's unavoidable for them to be washing their hands in that type of workplace setting.

And what about in terms of getting care? We think of people working in rural areas.

And what does that mean for system level gaps, access to specialists? How are nurses in rural areas managing?
I want to say in a past life, in one of my previous roles, I was a regional educator for a lot of kind of small rural hospitals in our area.
And as you say, there really isn't a lot of kind of backup or flexibility and staffing in those areas.
So sometimes in really small hospitals, you may have two or three nurses working in the entire hospital that day.
So if one of them is affected, that's already 30% of your staffing that may be taken out of the mix, which can be extremely challenging.

This really is significant, Marlee, because I remember even as a student, the amount of handwashing.

So to perhaps give us a little bit of context, what are the stats on how many times in a day nurses are washing their hands when they're in hospitals? Have we measured that?
I don't have a good hard and fast number for you, but I think certainly in our post-COVID context, that is something that we're spending more and more time on, right? Certainly we were vigilant before, but now in this kind of new age of really risky infections that can spread quite quickly, everyone has a keen eye on those infection control practices and performing a lot of handwashing.
I would say in the course of my shift, it wouldn't be uncommon for me to sanitize or wash my hands upwards of 15 to 20 times in an hour, just with kind of routine patient interactions.

And looking a little bit more at some stats, the Canadian Dermatology Association says 17% of Canadians will get at some point of time in their life some form of eczema.

So this affects Canadians across the board and significantly nurses, as we're going to talk about today.

Can you talk a little bit about your viewpoint as to what's happening across Canada? And when we use the words like national burden, what does that mean? Let's start there.
So I think it's interesting to look at those stats about the kind of prevalence in the general population because it is quite a bit lower in the general population versus high risk groups.
Anyone who has kind of exposure to chemicals, to frequent hand washing, to irritants is placed at a higher risk.
And individuals in that kind of category, their kind of risk of chronic hand eczema is actually up to 40%, so quite a bit higher than the general population.
And I think when we look at that from a national lens, that's quite kind of an impact on our healthcare system and places quite a risk on our workers.
It's unavoidable for them to be washing their hands in that type of workplace setting.

And what about in terms of getting care? We think of people working in rural areas.

And what does that mean for system level gaps, access to specialists? How are nurses in rural areas managing?
I want to say in a past life, in one of my previous roles, I was a regional educator for a lot of kind of small rural hospitals in our area.
And as you say, there really isn't a lot of kind of backup or flexibility and staffing in those areas.
So sometimes in really small hospitals, you may have two or three nurses working in the entire hospital that day.
So if one of them is affected, that's already 30% of your staffing that may be taken out of the mix, which can be extremely challenging.

This really is significant, Marlee, because I remember even as a student, the amount of handwashing.

So to perhaps give us a little bit of context, what are the stats on how many times in a day nurses are washing their hands when they're in hospitals? Have we measured that?
I don't have a good hard and fast number for you, but I think certainly in our post-COVID context, that is something that we're spending more and more time on, right? Certainly we were vigilant before, but now in this kind of new age of really risky infections that can spread quite quickly, everyone has a keen eye on those infection control practices and performing a lot of handwashing.
I would say in the course of my shift, it wouldn't be uncommon for me to sanitize or wash my hands upwards of 15 to 20 times in an hour, just with kind of routine patient interactions.
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