Why do you think there is such inconsistent care? Does it have to do with access to newer therapies, awareness of new therapies? What are some of

the bigger challenges? I think number one, the first thing we talked about is really that diagnosis piece.

So I think just the barriers to diagnosis presents the first challenge.

And then I think from there, because we pursue treatment with a wide variety of health care providers, whether it be your kind of primary care physician or a nurse practitioner or a dermatologist, there's often different kind of approaches depending on who you're seeing.

And there's no kind of standardized approach there.

So often you'll find your health care provider advocates for kind of a stepwise approach of try some moisturizers first and maybe some cotton gloves.

Often people have already tried this and need to be escalated to the next step.

The work that the Canadian Association of Critical Care Nurses does, what are you most proud of in terms of the work that they're doing? What's a little bit about their mandate and what are you appreciative of with this group? So the Canadian