How do you stay brave in commercial real estate sales when the missiles start coming? Michael Bull, CCIM talks with F-16 fighter pilot Lt. Col. Waldo Waldman about fear, resilience, and commitment.
Waldo flew 65 combat missions while battling claustrophobia and panic attacks that began with a scuba accident a year and a half into his flying career. He explains how he subjugated fear to purpose and his team, why preparation leads to confidence (not perfection), and how the "chair fly" drill of rehearsing every contingency in front of peers translates directly to listing presentations, tenant negotiations, and lender meetings.
The conversation covers the Air Force Academy's 33% washout rate and the grit it builds, the "check six" principle of mutual support from his New York Times bestseller Never Fly Solo, why "I don't know, I'll find out" builds credibility, taking small assignments to win the long game, handling naysayers, and why commercial real estate professionals should train as constantly as athletes and pilots do. Waldo also previews his new book, Commit, Commit!, named for the radio call fighter pilots make when there is no turning back.
In this episode:
00:00 Dodging the Missiles in Commercial Real Estate
01:40 The Scuba Accident Behind a Fighter Pilot's Panic Attacks
03:53 Flying Claustrophobic: Preparation Leads to Confidence
05:07 Subjugate Fear to Purpose and Your Team
06:58 Build Relationships Before the Missiles Come
08:00 From Cockpit to Sales: A 33% Washout Rate and Grit
09:44 Chair Flying: Practice Under Pressure With Peers
11:44 No Ejection Seat: Where "Commit, Commit" Comes From
13:07 Bravery in Negotiations: "I Don't Know" Is a Good Answer
14:10 Never Fly Solo: Check Six and Mutual Support
15:37 Honest Feedback: A Rubber Mallet, Not a Pitchfork
16:44 Lose the Battle to Win the War: Small Deals, Long Game
17:51 65 Combat Missions Without Being Fearless
19:13 Look Back to Leap Forward: Scars as Fuel
21:03 Envision the Win: The Batting Cage Mindset
22:07 Know Your Why Before You Fly
23:28 Reigniting the Fire Mid-Career
25:16 Handling Naysayers: Bet on You
26:56 Why CRE Pros Should Train Like Fighter Pilots
28:41 Make Your Friends Your Mentors
Connect with Waldo Waldman:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/waldowaldman/
Wingman Enterprises Website: https://yourwingman.com
Contact Michael Bull:
[Michael@BullRealty.com](mailto:Michael@BullRealty.com)
404-876-1640 x 101
Bull Realty, Inc
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbull/
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