Geoff LivingstonHost
With that in mind, I did speak at the GAIN conference on Thursday, and this is business to government marketers.

So a lot of the government contractors, professional services, marketing firms that are all serving federal, state, and local government.

And it's interesting because it just goes to show you again how the federal market is just a little bit different.

People are just starting to recover from the whole Doge thing, which was for this market, particularly Washington, D.C., extraordinarily rough.


And one of the things that we really started to discuss was efficacy versus efficiency.

And if you listened to last week's podcast, I gave about 45 seconds a minute on that.

So I thought we would have this episode and really dive a little bit deeper into it.

With that in mind, I did speak at the GAIN conference on Thursday, and this is business to government marketers.

So a lot of the government contractors, professional services, marketing firms that are all serving federal, state, and local government.

And it's interesting because it just goes to show you again how the federal market is just a little bit different.

People are just starting to recover from the whole Doge thing, which was for this market, particularly Washington, D.C., extraordinarily rough.


And one of the things that we really started to discuss was efficacy versus efficiency.

And if you listened to last week's podcast, I gave about 45 seconds a minute on that.

So I thought we would have this episode and really dive a little bit deeper into it.
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