Competition, relationships and surfing - Against The Grain - Ep#4

Just kind of like this morning at Rocky's.

Just like this morning at Rocky's, literally.

How did that

feel? Was that your aha moment? I actually

didn't know.

I hated it because I was just like, I don't feel like I deserved it.

Really? Yeah, because I didn't feel like I earned it.

I might have won an event, but I don't know.

For some reason, I felt like I never earned it.

The first world title, I felt like I never earned it because I'm like...

I wasn't surfing for it.

I was letting other people lose for it.

And I'm like, I never felt like I deserved it.

Like, I was stoked to win, don't get me wrong, because it...

Yeah, I'm sure Kelly and Andy feel the same way all the

time.

Yeah.

But, you know, it was cool to get the second one because that's when I actually

felt like, oh, yeah, I earned this one because I...

How many junior events did you have to do to qualify for the finals?

Did you

guys have? Because we had, like, two.

Well, it was funny, from there on out, I never did another junior again, because...

Well, after you won the second year.

After I won the first year, I mean, I think you...