Oct 15, 2026 · 16 min · 9 segments
Text me what you thought of the show 😊 **Across the last few episodes, I’ve talked about what I believe is missing in the way many organisations…
Roger SutherlandHost
What are we actually trying to build? And if you ask me what shift work capable organization looks like, I'd probably start with it doesn't look like.

People are still gonna be required to remain awake and perform during a time when their biology is promoting sleep.

People still have families, kids, commutes, appointments, sporting commitments, and lives outside of their shift working job.

There will still be fatigue, and people will still make choices that aren't perfect.

So when I talk about building shift work capability, I'm not promising some magical workplace where everybody's perfectly aligned and bouncing into a twelve-hour night shift full of energy.

What I'm talking about is giving people a better chance of managing it well.

What are we actually trying to build? And if you ask me what shift work capable organization looks like, I'd probably start with it doesn't look like.

People are still gonna be required to remain awake and perform during a time when their biology is promoting sleep.

People still have families, kids, commutes, appointments, sporting commitments, and lives outside of their shift working job.

There will still be fatigue, and people will still make choices that aren't perfect.

So when I talk about building shift work capability, I'm not promising some magical workplace where everybody's perfectly aligned and bouncing into a twelve-hour night shift full of energy.

What I'm talking about is giving people a better chance of managing it well.
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