Sep 27, 2026 · 35 min · 16 segments
Text me what you thought of the show 😊 This morning I joined Tony McManus on Australia Overnight for a conversation that went somewhere I think we…
Roger SutherlandHostI sent you a note yesterday, which is well and truly worthwhile talking about.
It's a lovely email that came in to me, but I forwarded it to you because it really goes to what you're about.
It says, Dear Mr Sutherland, that's you.
It is indeed.
Firstly, thank you for your service as a police officer.
I appreciate that you're trying to make changes to show first responders how they manage their health, sleep and their day.
This is where it gets really interesting.
Yes.
I'm the wife of a retired South Australian police police officer, 42.5 years.
Wow.
That's a lot.
I'm also the mother of a single adult child who grew up managing her father's shifts, absences and whatever the job threw at her in her young life.
Very important point that I'm still managing sleep deficiencies created by a husband working shift work for such a long time.
Feel that the management and effects of shift work not only felt by the worker themselves, but also the workers family.
I've seen other police officers, wives experience suicide, alcoholism, breakdown of relationships.
I experienced long-term health issues, sleep deprivation, considerable stress, the inability to sleep until I heard my husband pull into our driveway.
No matter what time his shift ended, he's still a factor even though he was no longer working.
Yes.
How powerful is that? Yep.
My point is, partners and children are there supporting their family member, but who is there to support

And I know Australia won't actually believe me on this, but I write a sheet and I send it in to Jay and yourself before I come in, just as some talking points.
I sent you a note yesterday, which is well and truly worthwhile talking about.
It's a lovely email that came in to me, but I forwarded it to you because it really goes to what you're about.
It says, Dear Mr Sutherland, that's you.
It is indeed.
Firstly, thank you for your service as a police officer.
I appreciate that you're trying to make changes to show first responders how they manage their health, sleep and their day.
This is where it gets really interesting.
Yes.
I'm the wife of a retired South Australian police police officer, 42.5 years.
Wow.
That's a lot.
I'm also the mother of a single adult child who grew up managing her father's shifts, absences and whatever the job threw at her in her young life.
Very important point that I'm still managing sleep deficiencies created by a husband working shift work for such a long time.
Feel that the management and effects of shift work not only felt by the worker themselves, but also the workers family.
I've seen other police officers, wives experience suicide, alcoholism, breakdown of relationships.
I experienced long-term health issues, sleep deprivation, considerable stress, the inability to sleep until I heard my husband pull into our driveway.
No matter what time his shift ended, he's still a factor even though he was no longer working.
Yes.
How powerful is that? Yep.
My point is, partners and children are there supporting their family member, but who is there to support

And I know Australia won't actually believe me on this, but I write a sheet and I send it in to Jay and yourself before I come in, just as some talking points.
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