Jun 16, 2026 · 36 min · 10 segments
**This was a true pinch-me moment for me. I had the incredible privilege of chatting with the woman who helped me realise I wasn’t alone during my menopause journey.** **As an accomplished journalist…
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Shelley HortonGuestJodiHostNow, we need to get on to some heavy hitting topics for us women out there.
Because apart from being the crazy amount of work that you're doing, you had the time to become a strong crusader for women's health.
In particular, peri and menopause.
Now, Correct me if I'm wrong.
Did I see you speaking in Canberra? There was something that you went to in Canberra.
Yeah.
Now, what was that about? So that was just a couple of weeks ago.
It was just before we went on

So I was invited by the health minister, Mark Butler, to come back to Canberra.

And that was something that I had actually campaigned for in parliament in 2023.

Because can you believe 2023 was the first time menopause had ever been mentioned in Australian parliament? gosh isn't that crazy yeah so that campaigning then led that was the first ever parliamentary round table on menopause that then led to the senate inquiry on menopause and their recommendations were adopted by the government so thanks to um a lot of people and all of their hard work we now have some great hrt on the pbs we have a new national perimenopause and menopause campaign, which I'm so proud of because I was part of like the committee and giving advice, all of this pro bono, let me tell you, like I didn't get paid a cent.

But my biggest thing I said to Mark Butler was if this ad has frail greyhead ladies fanning themselves, I will fly to Canberra and punch you in the throat.

He did remind me that that is actually threatening a government official and I'm not allowed to do that.

And I think if when I was 45 and I went into perimenopause, I saw that ad, it would have saved me years of grief and not understanding my symptoms and getting perimenopausal depression.
Totally.
And when you read Shelley's book, you will totally understand what she went through.
I won't go into that.
I read that chapter a
Now, we need to get on to some heavy hitting topics for us women out there.
Because apart from being the crazy amount of work that you're doing, you had the time to become a strong crusader for women's health.
In particular, peri and menopause.
Now, Correct me if I'm wrong.
Did I see you speaking in Canberra? There was something that you went to in Canberra.
Yeah.
Now, what was that about? So that was just a couple of weeks ago.
It was just before we went on

So I was invited by the health minister, Mark Butler, to come back to Canberra.

And that was something that I had actually campaigned for in parliament in 2023.

Because can you believe 2023 was the first time menopause had ever been mentioned in Australian parliament? gosh isn't that crazy yeah so that campaigning then led that was the first ever parliamentary round table on menopause that then led to the senate inquiry on menopause and their recommendations were adopted by the government so thanks to um a lot of people and all of their hard work we now have some great hrt on the pbs we have a new national perimenopause and menopause campaign, which I'm so proud of because I was part of like the committee and giving advice, all of this pro bono, let me tell you, like I didn't get paid a cent.

But my biggest thing I said to Mark Butler was if this ad has frail greyhead ladies fanning themselves, I will fly to Canberra and punch you in the throat.

He did remind me that that is actually threatening a government official and I'm not allowed to do that.

And I think if when I was 45 and I went into perimenopause, I saw that ad, it would have saved me years of grief and not understanding my symptoms and getting perimenopausal depression.
Totally.
And when you read Shelley's book, you will totally understand what she went through.
I won't go into that.
I read that chapter a
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