So why is female inclusive data so critical for the future of medicine?

Because we've been left out for so long.

Women are 51% of the population and yet we just haven't been involved in the data.

I mean, you look at the amount of money spent on erectile dysfunction and it's like 5 billion times more than on endometriosis.

And we know that if we can just get our scientists focusing on female health and not seeing our hormones as a problem or rather than something that, you know, upsets their trials to actually that is exactly what's going on in our bodies.

And that's why we need to be part of it.

So for me, I think it's just going to benefit, you know, it's going to be for everyone.

How can our listeners get involved and what is the ultimate goal here?

So why is female inclusive data so critical for the future of medicine?

Because we've been left out for so long.

Women are 51% of the population and yet we just haven't been involved in the data.

I mean, you look at the amount of money spent on erectile dysfunction and it's like 5 billion times more than on endometriosis.

And we know that if we can just get our scientists focusing on female health and not seeing our hormones as a problem or rather than something that, you know, upsets their trials to actually that is exactly what's going on in our bodies.

And that's why we need to be part of it.

So for me, I think it's just going to benefit, you know, it's going to be for everyone.

How can our listeners get involved and what is the ultimate goal here?

So mum hit it

and mum's 76 now.

So she's of that age where you don't discuss women's health.

You don't talk about things.

I found out that she actually went into medical menopause because after she had my brother, she ended up having a full hysterectomy and having her ovaries removed.

So that means you go bang into menopause.

You don't get perimenopause.

So what are the common symptoms that people know about perimenopause and what are the symptoms that people don't expect with menopause or perimenopause?

know that you'd gone

through that.

I'm happy to talk about it.

So I had perimenopausal depression and I am very fortunate in that I have never had mental ill health before in my life.

Yeah.

I didn't know that it was a symptom of perimenopause because I'd never heard of the word perimenopause.

I thought menopause was just for like 60 year old ladies and they had some hot flushes and their period stopped the end.

So we are

How did you have that conversation, Shelley, when you were getting serious with your current husband?

Oh, Darren and I are very good at communicating, and so he knew my background.

He knew how, exactly what had gone down in my previous marriage and why I felt that way.

So he in no way feels threatened.

He knows I have an account, but he does not know how much is in there.

I make the decision of how much I put in there, um, and we put in the same amount into our joint accounts.

So for me, it might just be that I wanna have some extra money to spoil my nephews, or I wanna buy a ridiculously expensive pair of shoes that [laughs] no human being would actually, you know, agree to.

... how is that making you feel?

"What was I thinking?" So Shelley, I've gotta ask you, is this a no boys allowed club? 'Cause it sounds like Dennis and Paul wanna be part of it.

Look, I am surprised that Dennis and Paul wanna join in.

Of course they wanna join in, because this is simply letting go and, and just having fun.

So you know what? I'm not going to ban them, but I am gonna say that we do have a real sisterhood in this, in this club, because there are some women who are struggling, and I am getting messages from women in Nigeria, and I got a message from someone from the south of France.

Like, this is really a worldwide movement, and I really think that just knowing that you're not alone going through the hormonal chaos of perimenopause is something that's really bonding, and that we can support each other and love each other and have a laugh, because sometimes when you've been searching around your house for your phone while you're on your phone-

Tell me about, tell me about the book.

So I had a pretty terrible time with my perimenopause, and part of it was because of the shame and silence.

So when I went into perimenopause at 45, I'd never even heard the word before.

That's a staggering number.

It's a huge number.

And that audience is growing.

I think actually last month it was just under 13 million.

So it's growing by the day, by the month.

And in addition to that, there are now maybe one in three people tracking their property, keen to know what it's worth.

So over 4 million people tracking their property across the relevant experiences, keen to know what that's worth.

We're short of it,