Sep 18, 2026 · 46 min · 11 segments
For Long Player this week, Emma Gleason chats to **Payton Taplin (Greatsouth)** about his debut album, *'Hellhole of the Pacific'.* Ngā mihi nui **NZ On Air Music!**…
Emma GleasonHostPukekiwa Riki Pā, um, the opening track to my album, Howl of the Pacific, um, is a, yeah, kōrero with, uh, my tuākana, Silas McClintock.
Um, I really wanted to include it and it opened the, the album because it kinda sets the intention of the album.
That actual kōrero, uh, was a part of our initial gathering of field recordings, um, for the album.
It kinda began the journey of a lot of the, the sonic contextualization of, of the album.
Um, and we spent the whole day just walking around the, the ngāhere up on the maunga, field recordings of, um, you know, just the water dropping off the leaves and the little crunch of the rocks in between your feet, and playing our pūoro up in the, in these spaces, 'cause that was a big thing I wanted to get across in the album.
And we had just had this crazy experience where we were playing our pūoro, and then there were, like, two-ish or three maybe, two I think, piwakawaka that started flying around us.
Like, literally, we had put the field recorder down and, um, lucky I did a little video of it, so I have photographic evidence.
[laughs] Um, but, but yeah, the, the piwakawaka just flying around us while we were playing.
That kōrero is a result of that, like, us just tripping out and just buzzing out on this ancestral maunga, pā, overlooking Tāmaki, being like, "Far, that's a, what a tohu." You know? Like, what a sign from our tūpuna or from our titaiau, um, to kind of ...
I took that as a sign to forge ahead and carry on with what we were doing, so- Oh, so that was the craziest experience I've ever had in my life, like, yeah, I'd say.
Seeing those manu.
Yeah.
I was like, like the space we're in and on, and like to think of like whanaunga that have like come here and, and the things they would've been doing.
And to be, uh, I don't know, just like a part of it and, uh, have the opportunity to do this and-
Mm
It's like returning to it, eh?
You know? I feel like, like what you're talking to there about, like, this wāhi tapu and, like, the people that were here and the practices that they had here, the lives that they had here, the wānanga.
Pukekiwa Riki Pā, um, the opening track to my album, Howl of the Pacific, um, is a, yeah, kōrero with, uh, my tuākana, Silas McClintock.
Um, I really wanted to include it and it opened the, the album because it kinda sets the intention of the album.
That actual kōrero, uh, was a part of our initial gathering of field recordings, um, for the album.
It kinda began the journey of a lot of the, the sonic contextualization of, of the album.
Um, and we spent the whole day just walking around the, the ngāhere up on the maunga, field recordings of, um, you know, just the water dropping off the leaves and the little crunch of the rocks in between your feet, and playing our pūoro up in the, in these spaces, 'cause that was a big thing I wanted to get across in the album.
And we had just had this crazy experience where we were playing our pūoro, and then there were, like, two-ish or three maybe, two I think, piwakawaka that started flying around us.
Like, literally, we had put the field recorder down and, um, lucky I did a little video of it, so I have photographic evidence.
[laughs] Um, but, but yeah, the, the piwakawaka just flying around us while we were playing.
That kōrero is a result of that, like, us just tripping out and just buzzing out on this ancestral maunga, pā, overlooking Tāmaki, being like, "Far, that's a, what a tohu." You know? Like, what a sign from our tūpuna or from our titaiau, um, to kind of ...
I took that as a sign to forge ahead and carry on with what we were doing, so- Oh, so that was the craziest experience I've ever had in my life, like, yeah, I'd say.
Seeing those manu.
Yeah.
I was like, like the space we're in and on, and like to think of like whanaunga that have like come here and, and the things they would've been doing.
And to be, uh, I don't know, just like a part of it and, uh, have the opportunity to do this and-
Mm
It's like returning to it, eh?
You know? I feel like, like what you're talking to there about, like, this wāhi tapu and, like, the people that were here and the practices that they had here, the lives that they had here, the wānanga.
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