Shifting Industries: Building a Versatile Skill | BJ Kito, Jon Feld

You know, we've been looking a lot, like James has been working a lot on these leadership pieces.

And it's really interesting because he's having me edit these things.

And as I go through them, for one...

I'm actually kind of surprised at how engaged I am because it's James.

But it's just kind of the topic and the way he disseminates the information is really good.

But what comes out of it is this sort of combination of structure, process, and empathy as a leader.

The idea is As technology progresses, and it would be so easy to lean into, let's just use that and do everything.

There's an inverse.

And as a leader, you have to be responsible for understanding that.

who your people are as people.

This is where humanity matters because we're not robots, we're people.

And a lot of what it is in one of the pieces he talks about, it's not so much about process, it's not so much about anything other than at times the pace you set.

If you're frantic and if you're an asshole, your people are gonna be frantic assholes and they're gonna be afraid of you.

So it's interesting that You know, we used to have a term for it a long time ago, this is back in the 90s, where it was called servant leadership.

And there's another term called management by walking around.

And the point of those is a level of accessibility.

And I'll use James as an example.

And trust me, this is not a person I want to hide from.

But I'll do it anyhow.

Because he does that.

You will see him get out of his desk, walk around, and talk to people.

And there are times when I've, if I've had issues, I've had problems, whatever it might be, there's an aspect of support that I get from the leadership in this company that Maybe in other places it's not expected or doesn't work that way.

But I think there's a recognition here that if you do the work you're supposed to do and that if...

It's not even about excellent production.

It's more about working within the framework and understanding the cadence of life here, the way we do what we do, and kind of embrace it.

You know, we've been looking a lot, like James has been working a lot on these leadership pieces.

And it's really interesting because he's having me edit these things.

And as I go through them, for one...

I'm actually kind of surprised at how engaged I am because it's James.

But it's just kind of the topic and the way he disseminates the information is really good.

But what comes out of it is this sort of combination of structure, process, and empathy as a leader.

The idea is As technology progresses, and it would be so easy to lean into, let's just use that and do everything.

There's an inverse.

And as a leader, you have to be responsible for understanding that.

who your people are as people.

This is where humanity matters because we're not robots, we're people.

And a lot of what it is in one of the pieces he talks about, it's not so much about process, it's not so much about anything other than at times the pace you set.

If you're frantic and if you're an asshole, your people are gonna be frantic assholes and they're gonna be afraid of you.

So it's interesting that You know, we used to have a term for it a long time ago, this is back in the 90s, where it was called servant leadership.

And there's another term called management by walking around.

And the point of those is a level of accessibility.

And I'll use James as an example.

And trust me, this is not a person I want to hide from.

But I'll do it anyhow.

Because he does that.

You will see him get out of his desk, walk around, and talk to people.

And there are times when I've, if I've had issues, I've had problems, whatever it might be, there's an aspect of support that I get from the leadership in this company that Maybe in other places it's not expected or doesn't work that way.

But I think there's a recognition here that if you do the work you're supposed to do and that if...

It's not even about excellent production.

It's more about working within the framework and understanding the cadence of life here, the way we do what we do, and kind of embrace it.