Talk us through your early days as, you know, admin when you were studying, you were doing admin role and how you were able to kind of jump from that into that legal role where you were working.

So I was doing an admin role for a multinational company and I sat in one building and the big building with all the lawyers and all of the corporate people were in a different building.

And I was right about to start my PLT.

I was just graduating from my degree and I had on my list, I think it was like the following week, it was on my list to reach out to the legal team and say, I need to do my PLT experience.

I already work here.

Would you mind me doing my PLT here? And before I had the chance to draft that email and go and see them, I got this email from the EA of the legal team.

And she said, hi, the GC wants to meet you.

I'm getting it out of you,