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Talk, talk us through, um, club land, actually.

Obviously, you play for the Sydney Swans, and, and the men's Sydney side are going so well, currently sitting second at the moment on the ladder.

What's the vibe amongst the crew at this point in the year when we know women's are about to kick off and the, you know, obviously the, I imagine that the energy's very high amongst the women's sort of squad, and then you've got the men, who are just absolutely humming along towards finals.

Take us into the four walls at, at, um, at club land.

Um, yeah.

Well, the, the boys are great at the club.

... about that, like, what, what that work is and how important it is for you to, I guess, be that role model for our young mob, 'cause you, you're already doing such an amazing job of that.