Tell me why open hardware has become such a central focus of the, the industry, and how does AI and the AI inflection point relate to that?

It's a good question to have now because we just celebrated our fifteenth birthday.

And if folks recall, the birth of OCP fifteen years ago was when Meta, Facebook back then, recognized that big hyperscalers like, like Facebook and the others had started designing their own computers, and they were going direct to the ODM ecosystem in Taiwan for manufacturing because they found that for their really large scale applications, there were a lot of return on investment and benefits to customizing things and building something specific to their needs, no more, no less.

And they also realized that there, there are other people in the industry doing the same thing, and they'd had so much success building on open source software.

They're like, "I don't see why we can't open source the hardware.

Why don't we bring that to a community?" They founded OCP with some partners like Intel, like Rackspace, and some others.

And no one had ever done anything like that before, and it started getting a bit of traction, and a conference went from a couple hundred people to our OCP in San Jose this past year was, like, fourteen thousand.

Mm-hmm.