What goes through your mind as a rescuer approaching that section of the Grand Teton?

That is a bad place to be.

Complexity.

Yeah.

So the second tower is a feature on the east ridge of the Grand Teton.

It.

is not often climbed to its summit, but it's often traversed as part of the Easter Ridge route, which is, I would say, a pretty popular route on the Grand Teton.

Yeah, can you speak to that a little bit?

What do you think?

Sure, yeah.

I think it's definitely sort of a Pandora's box, so to speak.

Like any amount of education, you can take it as far as you want to.

But for the average recreational backcountry skier, I think you need to be careful not to take it too far.

All of these skills are perishable.

That's something that you learn in your first rec level one course, your rec two course, your pro one.

Are there other topics, things within this kind of realm of education and preparedness conversation that you wanted to bring up or that you wanted to mention today?