kind of want to unpack that a bit of how these dogs led you to find these answers in your life and guided you to where you're at today.

Oh, yeah, that's a wonderful question, man.

I love that you don't beat around the bush.

I love that we get into the nitty gritty.

I really only like doing podcasts if we can get into the bone marrow of life.

And yeah, you know, there was I have a deep, natural connection.

I'll just say self-hatred, kind of a lingering, swirling lack of acceptance of myself that is really difficult to process.

Now let's get back into the episode.