I've heard that typically people who are good at comedy have at one point in their life suffered tremendous grief and they've learned to take that grief and deal with that grief by turning to laughter.

Absolutely.

Yes.

I lost a best friend the same year I got saved.

His name was Armani and he was the one that was the brother I never had.

We ended up living together.

We were roommates and we had the best years of our lives together.

Speak to that person.

For someone who's wanting to start a podcast to support this platform, what advice would you give to one that will grow and doesn't become a burden or kind of fizzle out?

Yeah, I think understanding that you really have to do it for the audience of one and that's, you know, God, but it's also the one listener that could hear it, that could really just be transformed and renewed through the power of what is being shared.

You know, there's I mean, even you think back before the Bible was even written, it was very much so orally translated.

It was very much so in group settings, you know.

Jesus spoke in parables.

So therefore, like the story and the testimony that you have in your life that could be shared with somebody that is listening could really change and elevate and impact their life.

And I've seen it, you know, on a small level.

So what helps, like, what makes a message, like, actually land, like, in a room instead of just sounding good on paper? Like, what's that delivery like? How to do that?