Yeah.

So, okay, so you go to the school of infantry, and so what happens is combat MOSs go to, like, one side of the camp, non-combat MOSs go to the other side.

They do 21 days in the field.

They do a bunch of hikes.

They get exposed.

Like, they sit behind a 240, they shoot a few rounds, they get up, and they go to another thing.

21 days in the field consecutively honestly sucks, but that's their only...

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And bigger and more real and, like, more, um, surrounding.

And, you know, in between me purging, which is what, what happens with Ibogaine.

Um, so the, the way the treatment goes, and again, I, I don't, this is what happens.

So we were weighed- Um, we had blood pressure, we did drug tests, we did all these things, and then the medicine is given to you in a pill capsule, and you stop eating at noon, and so the, the ceremony begins around 7:00.

And, um, you're just laying there and you're like, "Is it working?" And then all of a sudden it starts working.

And so I hadn't had anything to eat for a long time, and like I'm having these like visions in this dream state, and every now and then I will come up and purge, vomit, um, the trauma.

[laughs] Yeah.

So tell us, Zach, what a somatic therapist is.

Yeah.

So...

To distinguish therapist and coach, it's, you know, I don't have an LCSW or an LMFT.

So it's a slightly different program.

Coaches tend to be a little bit more future oriented.

And also I am really accountable to outcomes.

Like, who is somatic therapy for? And what does that look like and why?

Mm-hmm

... um, I think just, like, newer veterans in general because, like, they feel like we're not giving them their due.

But, like, honestly, they're the ones who did a lot of the work that put myself and everyone in, I believe, this room in a position to succeed.

Um, I wanted to work with them, but, like, what I always say to people is, like, I have the ability to reach out and interact with hundreds of thousands to millions of people at any given moment in my life.

That's what they did to me.

They straight up lied about me.

Yeah.

And like it sh- it's, I can still think of like when I opened up my phone and I saw it and I was just like, [sighs] "My wife's gonna be so pissed at me." [laughs] Like, like 'cause I was just like, "I can't believe I'm in this place." Like I've, like I said, like you said, like I have worked with veterans, I have worked with non-profits.