What's, what's the experience been like for you?

No, I got swept into it, Angela, and I wasn't even expecting it.

Right.

So it was a pivot moment for me and that I was proud of my host city, you know, or my home city hosting.

And I guess I just didn't realize how big it was.

It was going to be, or it has been.

And then just the admiration I have for the true football fans, the true soccer fans, and the fact that they've come here to the States and they're traveling to different host cities or travel to different host cities to watch different matches.

What do you think is the key? That is always the question, right? After an event like this, how do you maintain that energy so you don't have the, you know, that World Cup hangover afterwards? How are we capturing attention now, whether you're a part of a sports organization or soccer organization, or how do you create more fandom through this event? You know, from your perspective and your lens, really just experiencing the a world cup like this for the first time like what do you think that that could look like for maybe maybe let's just let's go with like a sports organization or professional soccer organization the Houston Dash right um the Houston Dynamo when we're here in Houston we've just hosted what types of things should these type of organizations be looking for to keep that momentum going

Um, they are, you know, faced with challenges often, and so it's not about are you going to experience challenge and adversity in your life, it is about what do you do when you meet it, and how do you move through it.

Yeah.

Angela, you and I have had an opportunity to obviously chat, you know, offline about the episodes, and I think a common theme for me is just simply how we bridge the divide between sports and business, and business from the perspective of women leaders that maybe didn't come from the sports background.

But just recognizing-

Yes.

What do you do to become the subject matter expert, to become the go-to person, to become that upper echelon? Um, you know, what are, what are the Gimper moments that you have to have to just have that super attention to the detail that you are better than the best? So I love that from Lori's episode, and I'm, I'm clearly summarizing how it impacted me.

From Tim's episode, Drew, I just remember the moment where he was describing, though, that your moment will come-