Mm.

So I think they were plotting on that or talking about that, however, whatever kinda way they were doing that.

And I told him, I said, "Bro, y'all need to add somebody to the blacktop." I did know the blacktop, I just didn't know the MyCareer.

I said, "You gotta add somebody to the blacktop." He was like, "No, I don't think so." [laughs] For years, "Nah, we don't need that." But the right person saw me, one of the developers saw me, and they were like, "Yo, okay, they don't wanna do it." [laughs] I said, "Oh, what?" And they was like, "But let's just keep working." Tim Parham from Chicago, he was like, "Yo, all right, they gonna bring you in for one day." I said, "One day?" Uh, four hours.

Four hours turned into four years.

Wow.

Uh, I think it was in Rio Grande or something, and he played, and he s- yeah, he went out there and won MVP at a, of the league, and then he got to the Rockets, had a, what'd he have? A four-year, $1 million each year until he survived that, because that was non-guaranteed, survived that and then signed that 60-something million dollar contract extension.

And in Philly.