[laughs]

[laughs] That VR.

Um, so at the beginning, uh, because, like, I feel like language has, like, a very big area, like, ling- uh, like oral or written, or, like words, sentence structure or, like, the habit we talk.

So, um, at the beginning, it's kinda hard to find, like, which specific area I should be, like, focusing on.

Um, yeah, so like, I tried out some stuff and I wanna start, like, with something very, like, narrow and easy to start with.

So I decide to start with, like, uh, words in Chinese written language.

Uh, so because Chinese have, like, singular character and character, and when they combine, they can become, like, words.

How, like, were these sort of conversations or these kinds of participatory research things that you have been doing, how, how have they been going? How is that type of interaction of trying to [laughs] get people to, uh, understand how this language is working and operating? How's that going?