12:33You mean they lied to you?
12:35And so I was there completing our sorry business ceremony.
12:40I was actually in ceremony and that ceremony was almost complete.
12:48And until the aunties and the senior matriarchs and other families that didn't have the chance to visit her, as a, you know, living culture, living knowledge depository where it's our classroom, you know, it's a place where we go and take our children to learn.
13:07And it's not just everyday learning, it's sacred women's business.
13:13And it's really, really, you know, high degree and significant for our Japarong nation, being a matrilineal nation.
16:52What replaces that? How do you endure?