Mm-hmm.

I really...

I was like...

I wanted to, I wanted to, to play guitar, and I played, but it was not the same.

It was not the same.

So when I, when I released from the army, I think it was, like, when I was 22 or 23 years old, I picked up the oud because of those Iraqi, uh, uh, musician also.

And, uh, after a while, I decided that maybe this will be my parallel instrument.

Bye.