So, so what did that teach you now as a dad?

It's important that my kids know that they matter.

As many as children as I have, I only have four, which I feel is a lot.

I can't imagine having eight.

Being the fifth of eight, I felt a lot of times like, "Well, I kind of do what I want, and nobody really notices or cares what's happening with me." But in those moments a- and those decisions, I knew, whoa, my parents, they're aware of me and they care how I'm developing and, and who I'm becoming.

And so I appreciated that.

And I was blessed to have already been prepared for moving, as that's what we did growing up and that, that we, we moved a lot.

So talk to me a little bit about unity.