Mm-hmm.

So when I was designing a workshop, instead of like providing them materials and, you know, fabrics and tools, instead I was asking them to bring something that they owned so that I could learn someone's history or like, say mat- a certain material that they resonate with.

And so, um- I just realized that each garment or, like, different materials could trigger different memories from, uh, everybody.

Particular in one workshop that I hosted, there's that one participant that brought a tutu, like a ballet tutu.

Mm-hmm

... for me, that I have to do it every single day, and to think about, you know, designs and, like, human experiences.

It's something that...

Materiality is something that shape and support our experiences.