Sandra

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I- Sandra.

And I used to think, wow, you know, my family that escaped the Holocaust, worry was their superpower because it allowed them to escape before it got too bad, and it kept at least my immediate family from being exterminated.

Um, and recently I've been thinking about, um, because, uh, instead of the technology of anxiety, the technology of hope and belief that, um, uh, acknowledging, you know, hope without optimism.

Um, you know, not believing that things will turn out okay just 'cause, but things are going to turn out okay 'cause we're gonna make them turn out okay.

Um, and I think that kind of, uh, tenacity and, um, facts-based hope is why Mamdani is so effective right now.

Mm-hmm