Yeah, what about you, Wilson?

Well, yeah, I mean, I think for me, it's hard to imagine doing anything other than journalism at this point because it's just such a part of just my general worldview, you know, trying to find truth of these situations that matter to people.

And I think that's what makes it... and made it so scary for a lot of these reporters to put their name onto the story, or even talking to us on background.

Like, you know, if people can trace back that they were one of the sources, like that was even a fear.

Like, so when we're talking to them, we're saying, you know, this is off the record.

And if this is on background, We won't even write the details in a way that can be traced back to you.

Those are the things that we have to be considering.

Can we say on the radio who the courageous first source was who agreed to go on the record?

Wilson Criscione, the investigations editor at Investigate West, read that coverage.

So I was just wondering, like any reader, like what was, what actually happened, like what, what led to this suspension, and I got a call a couple weeks later i- in August from, um, one reporter who knew w-what was going on and, uh, told me, you know, everything that they knew and...

But at that point, I wasn't sure if we were gonna do a story.

It's not, you know, exactly s- uh, the story that we would always do at Investigate West.

So for a story like this, what's the goal? Is it to get Rob Curley out? Is it just to expose what he did? What i- what was the goal of the story?

Yeah, no, the g- the goal was not, uh, to get Rob Curley out.

I mean, the goal was just to explain, to answer our initial question that I think we had of what happened here.

Like what was going on in the newsroom that led to this, this big decision to put him on paid leave and is causing this internal investigation.