Have you ever-- when you were in some of those rooms with some of the names that I was dropping, did you ever look around and think, like, "I can't believe I'm here"? Or did it f- did it feel like it happened slowly enough that you were just like, "Yeah, this is where I am"?

Well, being an assistant, you know, I-- most of those, almo- all of those were because of Joe, and, um, being an assistant is a very different kind of thing 'cause it's very relaxed, and the odds aren't your, your, your responsibilities.

Like, I would work with people, but your responsibilities are very different than when you're directing.

So it felt like, you know, yeah, I, I belong here.

I was never really intimidated by anyone.

The most intimidating person was when we did Man of No Importance.

It was Roger Rees who played the lead, and, you know, I've been a Nicholas Nickleby fan since the beginning, and he's just extraordinary.

When people talk about the price of tickets, what do you-- what would be something that you wish they would understand?