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Thank you very much.

I just wanted to call in and just support the fact that...

Bill Scott and Mike Kamados were absolutely at the forefront of this whole type of warfare and just made the prediction that not only were we going to be relying on drones, but we'd be relying on drones, fighting drones, fighting satellites.

So we're in the thick of it now.

Well,

The problem with a lot of this disclosure is that most of it is secondhand.

That's the problem.

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Talking about launching human beings into space, and they actually developed this thing called a rocket plane that would go to the near high in the atmosphere, way above the altitudes, the ceilings of conventional fighters escorting the bombers over Germany.

Then they would dive through the squadrons and knock out the bombers.

They didn't care about the fighters, but they would knock out the bombers.

The fighters couldn't do any damage.

They were knocking out the bombers.

That was the plan.

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I, I mean, that's a big statement.

It's one of the things...

There was a person...

I mean, folks might remember this person's name.

He was, uh, a naval commander, George Hoover.

He's best known, um, as the, uh, naval commander who was tasked by the Office of Naval Intelligence to investigate the Philadelphia Experiment, the, the time travel experiment.

It wasn't really a time travel experiment, but he was tasked to investigate it.

Or others might say the perfect cover.

To rule out planes and unusual weather as the cause of the sightings, Coral judiciously cross-referenced these accounts by contacting local airfields and military bases.

What she was able to do was show there were commonalities among UFO sightings.

There were things that UFOs did and that observers saw that stretched across different cultures and different parts of the United States.

He claimed that General Ramey replaced the real Roswell debris.

Major Marcel explained how they swapped the Roswell debris with radar material from a radar balloon, and he had to swear that's what he saw.

So the point is that Stanton unearthed a lot of this material and was the first person to make it public.

Ah

... that's piece one.

Then piece two is when, uh, Jim and Liz, through their attorneys, uh, go into court and say to the judge, "Well, this was a whole journalistic enterprise.

I'm, I'm protected under the First Amendment," the judge then goes into contortions to throw out a First Amendment defense and say, "Well, you're really a souvenir hunter.

You're not a journalist.

You're a souvenir hunter.

You're telling somebody to send you souvenirs from a plane crash, and so you get no journalistic defense." So she actually throws First Amendment out of the court, and so once you throw First Amendment out of the court when you're a journalist, where is your defense? And then she taints the jury pool so nobody believed the government could engage in a conspiracy.

Mm-hmm.

Bill Birnes, PhD, is the author of The Big Book of UFO Facts, Figures, and Truth.

NASA control is furious about this.

"Don't report this.

What are you doing? Oh, it's, it's, it's just debris, booster rocket debris." But no, the astronauts fully maintain, and this is multiple witnessed, these are craft flying with the Gemini capsules, and the whole thing is hushed up when they land.

Bill Birnes, PhD, is the co-author of The Day After Roswell.

July 8th and 9th, the newspaper headlines, "Army Captures Flying Disc Outside of Roswell." How did the newspaper get that story? Walter Haut.

He was the official public information officer at the Roswell 509th who gave the story to the newspaper.

Bill Birnes, PhD, is the co-author of UFOs and the White House.

Under hypnotic regression, separately, by the way, so they each wouldn't contaminate the other's story, Betty and Barney told the exact same story.

The object hovered over the car, then landed in front of them, and they were yanked out of the car by these small four-and-a-half foot beings and dragged into a clearing where they boarded a spaceship.

The governor of Arizona described a strange triangular UFO that appeared translucent, camouflaging itself amidst the star field above.

They were seen by hundreds of people, but when they looked between the lights, what they could see were the stars.

But it wasn't just the night sky as if there was nothing there.

They were wavy, as if something was getting in the way of the direct light from the stars.

So it's stealth.

Bill Birnes, PhD, is the co-author of UFOs and the White House.

They prepared a manual, basically briefing documents for the incoming administration.

According to these documents...

Now, was this just like straight meth like we have today, or was it like other ingredients, other kind of mixtures to it?

No, it was a compound.

I mean, what Max Jacobson's theory is, was first of all, at that time in Germany, we're talking about the 1920s and the immediate years after World War II.

And Max Jacobson was a young internist at the charity hospital in Berlin.

And he was seeing a lot of patients with, um, uh, neuromuscular diseases, muscular dystrophy, for example.

And, uh, The surgeries at that point, doctors were very excited that surgeries could cure all kinds of things.

But the problem was that operating rooms in the 1920s were not sanitary.

interviewed Tony Bradley.