Why are you writing a book about the remote training collar? Do you think there's a gap in the understanding of the remote training collar or you want to put out maybe a piece of content that covers everything you know about the collar so people can pick and choose how they want to implement it? What's your goal, basically, with the book? Was it a passion project or did you have a big picture for it?

it was it was completely a passion project like um really i think there's a lot of misconceptions around how we use the electric collar and i i don't agree with low-level stimulation conditioning.

And there's a number of reasons for that.

And also, as well, going back to what we were just talking about, about classical conditioning and why, and forward conditioning being the most optimal route to success with it.

If you even look at, say, the biggest... electric collar manufacturers and how they recommend utilizing the electric collar in these low-level stimulation conditioning programs, which...

Very typically, they are recommending backwards and simultaneous conditioning, at least in the beginning, or they're mixing it all in together.

And I have a problem with that because it doesn't adhere to, say, the rules of learning theory.

Have you seen any specific negative consequences from utilizing low level stim in the field? And one of the reasons why you don't recommend it or like using it yourself?