Like how does Calgary transit track their buses and how does that data go from them to us as riders?

Yeah.

So, so there's a few different ways that a transit system might sort of broadcast information about what's going on in their system.

So there there's a, there's a few different methods and the most basic one you can think of as a schedule, there's a sort of static schedule that's obviously important to give to users.

And so, Most apps, we'll probably talk about transit app a fair bit.

It's sort of the one that people use.

But any time you open Google and you look for transit, they're drawing from schedules.

Did you have anything else that you wanted to mention on this one?

So it's building beyond the ring road in both directions now.

Exactly, exactly.

So that was sort of the vision that came together in sort of the mid 2010s, let's say.

That work advanced, there was a whole bunch of work done about downtown Calgary in 2016, where they looked at all these different ways to get downtown.

Um, they also looked at this in 2006, but they looked at other things in 2016 and ultimately they concluded that they wanted to go sort of through the center, what I've been calling the center of mass of the city, sort of the balancing point of the downtown, which is second street and to tunnel it underground, um, go onto the bow river, connect up to the north.

Um, and that was advanced for a while, um, until it was paused by the provincial government in first in 2019.

I think so, yeah.

He says, Willem, I think you're probably the best person person suited to to answer this question knowing of course that you don't work on the green line project um but someone who's a little bit more familiar with how transit works uh could you field this question

Is anybody making gains? Are we seeing anything proving effective in dealing with this?

I will say that nobody's found a silver bullet.

Nobody's found a solution to this problem, and that is because it is a very wide and complex problem.

It is not necessarily – and you've got to remember, transit agency mandate is to connect people to their destinations, right, move people around the city.

And so asking transit to do something that is a much larger problem is a bit of a mission creep situation.

And so everybody around North America is facing this situation and dealing with the same problems.

People have tried different programs and some of them are successful, but those things take money, they take resourcing, they take time to see the effects, right? It's not something you see right away.

Do we know, is that an effective way of trying to deal with problems?