Tell us a bit about yourself in all of this as well.

I'm Will Todd, and you and I have known each other for a long time, um, 'cause I've done lots of things at St Martin, uh, St Martin-in-the-Fields.

So I'm a composer, uh, and I've, uh, always written music since I was small, and quite a wide spectrum of music that I've been involved with from opera through to jazz.

And the jazz thing is very, um, close to my heart because I'm actually a jazz musician myself, play jazz piano, um, because I actually started life as an improvising pianist and I improvised at the piano before I ever read music or learnt to read music.

So the whole idea of, of sort of extemporization at the keyboard is very natural to me, and that leads quite naturally into jazz forms where you're improvising and there's a blend between playing written things and improvising.

Uh, and that has led to a number of works of mine, which are what I call jazz choral, where we've got, um, a sort of English choral sound plus a jazz ensemble, which will generally be my trio, so piano, bass, drums, sometimes other instruments are added.

Um, and probably my most well-known work in that genre is a piece called Mass in Blue, which was written a long time ago now, but has...

... worth having a chat about.