But what happened? How did you get this idea and why did you act on it?

Yeah, that's a great question because you're right.

For a lot of folks, they would assume that you need to have a business background to start a business.

So the origins of Catholics for Hire go back to my upbringing in Portland, Oregon, growing up a devout Catholic in Portland, Oregon.

Very interesting part of the country to grow up Catholic, to say the least.

When I was growing up there, and I think still to this day, it's a very secular place.

not very religious friendly place to be.

And tell me about your experience in being that specific.