Mm.

Like, it's, "I was done." I w- I would say for me, playing in the NFL was, like, unlike anything else because your, your adrenaline, your emotions, everything is heightened to the max.

Like, it is the most exhilarating, the craziest experience of all time.

It's like l- it, it might be similar to, like, I don't know, driving a car or BASE jumping.

Like, it is to the max.

Yeah.

There's nothing.

Like, you know, the guys who do well s- so financially, like, you're not gonna make money like that unless you go into investment or something, or venture capitalism, whatever it is.

But what, what do you see in Robert Saleh, why this thing should be better this time around versus how it went with the Jets?

Yeah.

I first, I first met, first rem- um, met Rob when he was a, an assistant in Seattle.

So I met him 2013, way back.

And then when Gus Bradley took a job at Jacksonville, he brought him over and, and he made him a linebackers coach.

And he was just always destined, man.

He was, uh, first of all, just a man of integrity.

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That's public record.

Yeah, I mean, it is public record, and eventually, who knows, more will come out.

But that's just...

Again, when, when you have people in position who can handle stuff and who can, you know, keep things quiet.

You know, you look at the 49ers, you know, they have a powerful organization.

You know, Mr. York, you know, he, you know, has a lot of people that he knows and, and, and do- does well, so therefore, you know, maybe it was his call, don't know.

But I just know, like, powerful things can happen.

Mm.

But it was funny because

I ended up majoring in English.

And the reason I did that is because I had a really cool professor my senior year in high school who really... uh gave me like the real and he he was just he just made me interested and you know but i got offered early man high school and i kind of checked out i went to high high caliber college preparatory high school um Actually, it's funny.

Celtics head coach Joe Mazzullo went there.

Rocco Badelli went there.

Quiddy Pay went there.

The DN over in Indianapolis.

But I'm curious to you, what was that highs and lows of the 9-3-7 team with the New York Giants and then y'all getting to the championship game?

Yeah, that, that was, uh, that was the one where they were blowing out the Niners the first half of the game.

Yeah, and, and the thing that stood out to me was post-game when Coach Campbell said, "We might not ever get back." You know? And I understand that yes, it's very, very difficult.

You know, I played 12 years and I've been to the Super Bowl once, right? And, and, and never really got back.

You know, got to the playoffs a couple times, but it is difficult.

But that's something that I wouldn't have really said to put that energy out there.

And, and yeah.

And then, you know, obviously the, the big thing is too, you lose, you know, your two coordinators.

What a crazy number that is.

Sure she's not injury prone, but how can you say and do you have to start to say now at this junction in time she might actually be coming injury prone?

Yeah, again the numbers you gave me with, with Dak Prescott and, and Carson Wentz, you gave me years.

Right now we're talking about, you know, single digit games as of now.

And it is concerning, right.

When you have the quad injury, sure it... compensation eventually being the great injury.

And here's the hard thing too, when you do sustain a certain soft tissue injury like you're gonna kind of have to alter your playing style, and for her she's just all gas.

Like that's her style no matter what it is and even her mindset as she plays, she's gonna try to fight and play through it.

Happy to see you, my brother.