But what I want to know is, firstly, what made him decide it had to be you as the composer?

Um, goodness.

Well, I was very lucky to, to be involved.

Um, I met Daniel, I was introduced to him by the film's producers, Black Bear.

I, I had scored two other movies of theirs, one called Dumb Money, another called Immaculate, and they introduced me to Daniel.

And I think the first, the first thing that he explained to me is, was that he wanted to make a, after the success that he'd had with Navalny, he wanted to make a movie-movie.

He wanted to make a, a thing that he would wanna watch, that he would want to be entertained by.

I mean, has it been different for you composing for a film where music is an important part of the plot? Or don't you think almost that music is s- sound is such an important part of any movie? I mean, it is, isn't it?