What in the world is happening here?

yes of the cornell seven story first of all i mean not just from my the academic position now but from my background as a lawyer i mean the cornell seven story of is not a rape story at all it it's a story of anything about awkward campus party scene behavior that dad but mom's need to teach their kids to rein in but essentially uh... member of a fraternity i think believe with the kite pie house asked a young woman if she wanted to have quote unquote a threesome if you want to be intimate to guys She said something along the lines of, hell yeah.

She went upstairs and, as I understand, basically hooked up with these guys.

The only thing that makes this somewhat controversial is that all of these people were acting incredibly trashy.

So the fraternity members boasted about this incident happening in their group chat and said things like, you can come by...

Pull it out, basically.

This woman is going.

Does a part of you feel sad for her, not just for where her mind is engaging this, but at the same time being used by all these media agencies, all these advocates and politicians?

uh you know the district attorney how she jumped on it and almost came to a conclusion in the press conference without you know without there being due process

well yeah i mean so a couple observations first of all from a legal standpoint i mean i think putting letitia james in there and saying we're going to get a fair investigation of an ethnically diverse group of men at um you know a the university where at least the donors probably lean toward the right.

I mean, I think that's sort of a joke.

Like you're appointing someone who's going to produce the result you think is needed.

And hopefully those guys are really lawyering up right now.

Beyond that, though, I think there are a lot of interesting things about this case.

If I had to look at it seriously from the perspective of someone who's kind of dead aged, this gets into the limit of consent as a regulator for sexual morality.

I guess maybe you can have a little bit of hope, you know, for people on campus life that not everybody is representative of these seven guys, you know, just being totally hedonistic.

And so some of this needs to be, it seems to me, like rising above this and being better than the identitarians so you don't get pulled into that morass.

Well, yeah, if I, if I could make a comment there.

I actually, I do tend to strongly agree with that.

Uh, the Republican Party had a real opportunity when we were going against woke to create an alternative message, which is that anyone who is successful, a taxpayer, likes the country, is welcome over here.

And that was the message for a while, and that's...

You saw the, the James Lindseys and a lot of business leaders and people like this moving parties, meeting with Trump.

And then you saw the rise of the quote-unquote dissident right, and they make some interesting points, but it, it very much is the alternative message.

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And I'm just... you know sharing some experience with you that you want to as as one boss i had early on in my broadcast career he said to me quite clearly bill you want to limit the negatives

and that's all I think that's correct.

I mean, years ago, I was talking to my girlfriend at the time, Lou Coyne, about an upcoming interview.

And I think it was for something like an adjunct professor slot, actually.

But I asked her how she thought I would do.

And she said, well, you're quite good.

I love you and all that.

You had people coming here from Europe and they were shocked to see the kind of food that was available in the grocery stores.

yes we've uh we've chatted with you many times dan has chatted with you many times i know as well uh and i want to get into unified solutions america as well uh one of the uh this uh company you've founded and which i also uh am on the advisory board of uh that does tie in a little bit to this but first let's get your thoughts on um what is going on in spain

I mean, I think it's an absolutely crazy situation.

The pictures look like World War Z. I mean this is a bit far to the right, but there's a book, The Camp of the Saints, that describes this exact situation where you have some sort of legal decision that allows people to simply enter mainstream Europe or what you could call the Western world from around the world.

Spain actually, as you said – I mean that was exactly accurate.

They made this call that people who make it to the country or to one of the territorial outposts of the country, I think the Rock of Gibraltar, that kind of thing – They can't just be sent back, just as Joe Biden said, actually.

They have to go through this complex legal proceeding.

There are asylum claims you can make.

How does this relate to trying to do a transition here to Unified Solutions America and this kind of fight against the identitarianism and the balkanization of that so many on the left have attempted to do in our culture here in the United States for years and the kind of blowback that has occurred in the last couple of years to that and the sort of fight for more unity that corporate boardrooms are trying to get more towards and our culture at large is as well.

And secondly, that the New York mayor is publishing a database that features only those people that would be taxed for having that secondary city home worth $5 million.

Yeah, so there are a couple components there.

Yeah, Mamdani is doing, and my pronunciation in French will probably be bad here, but a paix d'intérêt tax where if you have a second, yeah, sort of like a lovebird condo or a house along the beach or the riverfront or something like that in addition to your country house, you do have to pay a high rate of tax.

I don't really have a strong opinion on that.

I mean, as a conservative, I tend to favor no new taxes whatsoever.

But would you do a sort of enhanced real estate tax for people that own three properties? I could understand it.

In Chicago, we have a similar tax, although we have every foolish tax you could imagine in Chicago.

uh 9-11 is being a good thing um what do you make of the request and first of all i don't think they'll be successful he's the mayor of new york he's going to be there whether they like it or not what do you make of the request of the families of some of the victims of 9-11 insisting that mayor mom donnie not being there even to the point of banning him from the ceremonies altogether what do you make of that i

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Unloading that PDF and taking a look at everyone who has more than $5 million in assets, at least real estate assets, and is often not home.

So I probably would have avoided that.

Mamdani, as I understand, has done this with landlords as well.

So there is a point at which things become intimidation.

Where there's that understanding of if the mayor of New York goes on camera and describes you as sort of a blood-sucking parasite, it's probably not the best thing for you to have your full home address out in public.

And yeah, Mamdani, in terms of your broadest point, Mamdani is one of the most talked about politicians in the country right now.

What do you make of the request of the families of some of the victims of 9-11 insisting that Mayor Mamdani not being there, even to the point of banning him from the ceremonies altogether? What do you make of that?

These kids are better off without a dad that's raping 10-year-old girls repeatedly.

Yeah, I mean, this is one of the most reprehensible cases I've seen recently.

I do have a pretty strong opinion on this one.

And the argument you just made or you outlined is completely absurd.

It's on par with saying that you should receive leniency as an orphan in a court case after murdering your parents.

Obviously, if you're a child molester, I don't see that you being home with your kids is a plus.

This is an example of how both parties, and I'm partisan, I'll say, especially the left, can take things way, way over the line to try to make points.

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These kids are better off without a dad that's raping 10 year old girls repeatedly.

Yeah, I mean, this is one of the most reprehensible cases I've seen recently.

I do have a pretty strong opinion on this one.

And the argument you just made is – or you outlined is completely absurd.

It's on par with saying that you should receive leniency as an orphan in a court case after murdering your parents.

Obviously, if you're a child molester, I don't see that you being home with your kids is a plus.

This is an example of how both parties – and I'm partisan, I'll say, especially the left – can take things way, way over the line to try to make points.

I mean, well, for what are we doing? What are we doing as a country when when a governor pardons someone like this to just, you know, stick to his guns on the immigration test that he would pardon a child rapist? And there's not universal outrage calling for that governor to be removed.

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What was the reason? I think it's a combination of things.

It's the straw that broke the camel's back.

So I think a couple things about this.

First, it is a darkly funny situation.

I mean, my group chat, which is a mix of old Kentucky boys and Chicago Irishmen, is having a lot of fun with this.

And, I mean, people are saying things like, who would have ever guessed the wife beating Nazi had trouble with women? And not all those allegations are confirmed.

I don't know what the actual breakdown is, but Most of the best players in the NBA are black, and I think he probably said something that probably a lot of NBA fans think.

And, I mean, people are saying things

like, who would have ever guessed the wife beating Nazi had trouble with women? And not all those allegations are confirmed.

Of course, he did have the tattoo.

We don't know about actual white supremacist sympathies.

But Graham Platner has been accused of a huge number of things.

You just did a good job listing them.

I mean, he was on Kik, which is the platform for high school party kids at 32 or whatever it was.

Would you agree with that?

Yes, they ruled that Donald Trump's executive order was not constitutional.

Okay, I'm not too surprised by that.

Yeah, I have pretty much your position.

I've looked at a couple of the cases.

I saw the trans kids in sports quote-unquote case earlier today.

Birthright citizenship, I think, is a misinterpretation by a liberal court in the 1970s of what the Constitution says.

I mean...

of trans women competing against biological women if a man wants to live his life as a woman and and i i have no i have no cares about that because it doesn't impact my life in any way but but i have an issue with it when it begins to impact the lives of others and in athletic competition it does

But that doesn't mean that, I mean, that's his opinion, but ultimately that's not what the 14th Amendment actually said.

Well, I mean, I think that the actual kind of documented writing record of a piece of legislation can be used to determine what that piece of legislation says.

I mean, that's one of the first things they tell you in law school, and that's a pretty clear indicator of what the drafters meant.

I mean, if you actually look at the history of the 14th Amendment, I mean, to get wonky, there is almost no doubt that it was not intended to include – The children of bluntly illegal aliens.

I mean, the 14th Amendment is one of the three Civil War amendments when you got the 13th, 14th and 15th.

They were passed right after the Civil War.

And in sequence, I mean, one of them banned slavery.

And in athletic competition, it does.

If there's one kind of like what stands out in your mind as like the biggest lie that's still taught today about maybe America, about our founding?

Yeah, I think the biggest lie overall that you get from kind of leftist education is it's a combined lie.

It's that Western society is uniquely bad.

And there are a bunch of things that go into that that are all wrong, but they're sort of noble savage theory.

The idea that people are inherently good, not inherently predatory and cannibalistic and so forth.

But that when you want to find good people, you would go look for like an isolated village of Yanomamo Indians.

That definitely goes into the critique of us.

Why is it that so many black voters would think so?

Do you have any thoughts on that and how Trump handled

it? Objectively, Larry, it seems like a pretty bad deal.

I mean, we are covering some of the reconstruction costs for the war.

Iran also, by the way, is covering some of them.

But I mean, we could pay up to $300 billion to Iran.

That obviously wouldn't be in one bulk package.

But I mean, one of the critiques of Barack Obama's deal was that he gave a few billion to the Iranians.

I mean, it's remarkable that there's nothing he can do that the left will be like, you know, I can go along with that.

Are you surprised that we've not learned more about what's in this agreement to this point?

No, not really.

I mean, there's still some final details being worked out.

I don't think it's worse than President Obama's Iran deal because there are more nuclear protections.

I mean, one of the big worries with Iran or someone that could potentially liberate that material from Iran, like ISIS, having nuclear access is, you know, a new sun rising over Tel Aviv or much less San Francisco.

But I mean, I actually, I've been pretty open on this show.

Like I lean to the right, but I don't think the Iran war was prosecuted all that well.

But when you say things like there were 12 white people, when you exaggerate, you sort of hurt your argument.

Are you surprised that we've not learned more about what's in this agreement to this point?

No, not really.

I mean, there's still some final details being worked out.

I don't think it's worse than President Obama's Iran deal because there are more nuclear protections.

I mean, one of the big worries with Iran or someone that could potentially, you know, liberate that material from Iran, like ISIS, having nuclear access is, you know, a new sun rising over Tel Aviv or much less San Francisco.

But I mean, I actually, I've been pretty open on this show.

Like I lean to the right, but I don't think the Iran war was prosecuted all that well.

But when you say things like there were 12 white people, when you exaggerate, you sort of hurt your argument.

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prove it.

Well, This is the problem.

I mean, so when you talk to anyone who's a mainstream Democrat or kind of Mitt Romney Republican, what they'll say is, well, there's not a lot of proven evidence of voter fraud, felony voter fraud.

The problem with that is that if you don't require an ID to vote and you don't require people to vote in person, you can't prove voter fraud.

I don't mean to be glib about this, but this is like when I wrote the book Hate Crime Hoax.

I relied on media reports first of a crime and then of a debunking, because if you follow the official police narrative and you look for cases where, you know, something was reported as a hate crime and officers later on openly say, well, we messed up.

So what do you say?

But but how would one go about I mean, how does Spencer Pratt, how do Republicans, how do people who are skeptical, how do you prove it?

Because you have to prove that this is the problem.

I mean, so when you talk to anyone who's a mainstream Democrat or kind of Mitt Romney Republican, what they'll say is, well, there's not a lot of proven evidence of voter fraud, felony voter fraud.

The problem with that is that if you don't require an ID to vote and you don't require people to vote in person, you can't prove voter fraud.

I don't mean to be glib about this, but this is like when I wrote the book Hate Crime Hoax.

I relied on media reports first of a crime and then of a debunking because if you follow the official police narrative and you look for cases where you know, something was reported as a hate crime and officers later on openly say, well, we messed up.

We believed a fake victim.

So what do you say?

Not available in all jurisdictions.

I mean, illegal immigration is probably a very big one if you're talking about rural areas as you move south in the country.

I'm not sure the Democrats have an illegal immigration policy.

I mean, they keep describing the idea of a border wall as extremely racist, for example, non-functional.

The Republican Party policy, on the other hand, is harsh by Ronald Reagan terms.

I mean, if you're here, you've been here a thousand days, we're going to kick you out of something Trump has said.

So I think as you polarize, you're going to find that the base of each party becomes more different and it's more specific.

And I don't know if this is the point Sean was making, but 1964 is the last American presidential election where a Democratic candidate got the majority of the white vote.

That's the claim, that the, what's happened in response is a genocide.

Well, first of all, like I'm getting kind of tired of the magic words used in discourse.

Uh, Israel, by the way, would also say that Hamas is genocidal because the Hamas compact includes from the river to the sea.

My own comment to both belligerents would be that words mean things.

But like moving back to...

I, I don't respond to that, but like moving back to why I'm, I'm not sympathetic to Hamas, first of all, they're a bleeping terrorist group.

Second, they literally started a war.

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Yeah, beaut- beautiful tourist destination.

They're, they're...

That's a positive influence.

That's an ally.

But I mean, in all honesty, Mexico, for example, when you look at influence on US immigration policy, in practice has a far larger day-to-day impact on the USA than, than Israel does.

Um, all US government budgetary spending on Israel, money transfers to Israel, all of that is well under $4 billion a year.

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... where you're probably gonna be outnumbered by your opponents.

You'd have to, there'd have to be a pressure point where you get sick enough of this to just say, "Eh, well, I have a high chance of dying anyway," and, you know, go after it.

That's, last thing, but that's what we saw in El Salvador as well, where Bukele, who was just a popular right-wing businessman, citizen, he'd been a journalist before, took power.

Got the Supreme Court to actually temporarily, if not permanent, repeal some civil rights protections, and just started jailing with the help of citizens, armed citizens, with the help of the military.

He brought the army out into the streets.

He actually just locked up every member of the major street gangs, like MS-13.Like, if you had a tattoo on your face and there wasn't something to explain that, sports history or something, you were, you were going to jail for a while, at least for questioning.

if he were a Republican he would survive, he would survive the race until sundown.

Could this open the door to politics? a Republican or a sane, maybe a sane Democrat to become the next mayor? Because I can't believe that New Yorkers are going to stand by and allow this guy to start seizing their property.

Well, hopefully.

I mean, one of the problems here is that there's a really low turnout in these sort of local mayoral elections, and they are often won by to some extent, the craziest candidate with the most excited, energized base.

So, I mean, as I've mentioned on the show before, I'm from Chicago.

And we had an election that pitted Paul Vallis, who's a millionaire businessman.

He's the school's chair.

Pretty much everyone expected him to win.

I mean, I think probably you were joking a little bit, but I think people would argue that maybe there's a strain of truth to that.

They won't be able to do too much, I think, in 26, but if they hang on to it in 28 and they lose the White House, Republicans lose the White House, Republicans are in deep, deep trouble.

Yeah, I think that's correct.

So Senator McConnell, for example, I'll give him a shout out.

There's a lot of criticism on both the left and the right of what's often described as kind of dull paper pushing.

This comes from the Trumps and the AOCs and the Jasmine Crockett's and a lot of people that are into Bernie Sanders, a lot of people that are into kind of aggressive populist politics.

There's a lot of criticism of the behind the scenes manipulation, drawing districts in interesting ways and so on.

passing bills.

Do you agree with that or do you have a different perspective?