How are people going to see this Supreme Court in our system and what does it do to the to the image of the court and the perception of the court and its role?

Yeah.

In some sense, I think that there is an aspect of the court that may sort of get like the president himself, which is that, you know, maybe it thinks that people will just tune it out after a certain point.

It just keeps ruling in ways and you're just kind of tired of it and sort of demoralized.

And the court just like, oh, we can keep going on because we've already got them in there.

Learned helplessness, as people say.

But at the same time, I do think because the court is hearing so few cases and fewer cases than it's heard in like a century almost, you know, the big cases at least do get attention in the media.

What is it you tell them and what is it that they think as they look at what's going on?