It is supposed to be in tandem with the patient.

And so I see that as part of the social epi and then all the other things I talked about.

But I actually worked in obesity for a long time, which fits a little bit more into that social frame because, you know, you think about something that is very common, affects large swaths of people, probably has some, like, causal factors that are really common.

And that should be modifiable because we've seen rates of obesity.

They vary so much across time.

They vary so much across place.

And so...

But yeah, looking inward, how do you think we can think about what needs to change in the topics that we discuss in social equity that would actually lead to population level changes?

And so being able to break down those barriers between the different parts of the university and the community is most helpful in thinking about how do we answer these very important questions? And also, how do we put ourselves in the best position to really make change and promote these really important healthcare interventions?

The convening today has been a little soul food for me.

I feel like my field of public health is going through a time of tremendous change.

And people respond to that in different ways.

Some people kind of turtle, go into denial, get a little paralyzed.

Some people freak out a little bit, and I'm attracted to a group like this that says, let's see disruption as an opportunity and think about how we can grow, innovate, make things better, find new opportunities.

And so it's been exciting to hear from you.