How did, how did that come about?

Uh, well, first let me say this.

I was called into ministry at age 17, all right? And so I gotta s- you know, I start under my father for two years.

Um, but after my father pa- my father passed away two years after I was called into ministry at ni- at age 19, but it was my mother that sorta guided me along the way.

And finally, when I got to Chicago, um, I kept trying to...

I knew I was coming to Chicago for the purpose of starting a ministry.

That was the primary purpose, but I knew I had to work and do different things to be able to support the ministry.

Um, I wonder if you've got any observations on the way that we are expending resource and specifically the way we are holding onto resource, uh, I don't wanna say for a rainy day, but for true preparedness, because I, I think I've heard you talk about-- You did a whole video on this at one point.