Do you have a number now? Did you learn from that? Was that a mistake, or there is no number for Zach?

Nah, there's no number for me.

I mean, once you, like, find that person, have a good relationship, the kids are the kids, man.

Like, it is what it is.

You got to understand what you're getting into.

[laughs]

... back then, I'd have been like, "Well, damn, that's a lot of responsibility." But I think it made me more mature-